Obsession is the heartbeat and connective tissue that joins the three very totally different novels on this version of our debut craft collection. I interviewed the authors to debate how every discovered their method into the character of obsession—whether or not by an concept, a personality, or a voice that haunted their writing—and went about circumnavigating and poking holes into the best way we fixate and dwell, the best way we obsess over issues which might be at instances mundane and others, profound. One novel follows a pair of tumultuous lovers obsessing over uncommon songs on beloved information. In one other, a tradition critic obsesses over the reality behind a good friend’s demise and the absence of “real” friendship within the digital age. The third explores a Muslim adjunct professor’s obsessive urge to search out love, or an alternative choice to it, within the messy trendy courting scene of Los Angeles.

These three novels additionally share an inclination to maneuver throughout cities and landscapes, chasing protagonists who’re pursuing wild needs and, within the course of, exploring the best way folks change—or don’t change— alongside their tackle. From Clinton Hill brownstones to Chicago karaoke bars, from Berkeley document shops and L.A. farm-to-table eating places to a hospital in Tehran, the characters in these novels journey and relocate, all of the whereas making an attempt to understand their idée fixe. The cities they dwell in grow to be stars within the unsure constellations of their lives: every determined to attach level A to level B. A couple of characters return dwelling as adults, attempting to rediscover who they have been so as to discover out who they are going to be. Others keep away from dwelling as a lot as potential and as an alternative grow to be hooked on trying to find somebody to sit down beside them within the passenger seat. In the long run, their questions revolve across the identical central concept: Does somebody’s latest obsession outline them greater than their previous? And at what level, does an object of fixation bleed into id? 

This spring, Mariam Rahmani, creator of Liquid: A Love Story; Jeremy Gordon, creator of See Friendship; and Holly Brickley, creator of Deep Cuts are our craft interview debut novelists. They spoke with me concerning the preliminary inspirations behind their tasks, the collapse of time, distance, and actuality inside a narrative, and the way the voices of their protagonists got here into being. 


Kyla D. Walker: Did you write Liquid with a top level view in thoughts? Or was the voice of the narrator the principle information?

Mariam Rahmani: Completely the previous. For me, this e-book was a examine in style. I watch lots of rom-coms and I’m all the time fascinated by how little shock issues. You understand the ending from minute zero—and sometimes, frankly, can surmise all the plot from minute ten. However it’s nonetheless so satisfying, and even satisfying. I used to be actually concerned with staging that relationship between the textual content and the reader. I additionally had a number of different questions for myself that operated as challenges. How good can a rom-com get? Can a “critical” novel have a contented ending? Can an “concepts” novel be aggressively femme? The queer and racial politics within the e-book are additionally a bit twisted, or a minimum of not strictly celebratory—you don’t all the time know whom you’re rooting for—and confronting that discomfort was necessary to me. Can the politically unhappy alternative benefit celebration? I.e., can one other brown girl ending up with a white man (sure, that’s me, but in addition so many different ladies I respect from identities that, just like the narrator, aren’t my very own) nonetheless really feel, within the warmth of the textual content, like one thing to root for? What of the bi or queer girl who chooses heterosexual love? Is the non-public all the time political? On the subject of biography, is every little thing all the time significant? Granted, I’d say that’s one large distinction between life and fiction—within the latter, it’s significant. Admitting that, I suppose I used to be asking about realism. How actual can this shit get? Fiction, I imply.

KW: How did you nail the particularly witty, kinetic, and enthralling voice of this protagonist? Did it take some time to search out and hone throughout the prose, or did it come naturally?

MR: I felt like a TV author. I’d spend days “workshopping” a joke or line with the folks round me, months desirous about it. There was additionally a draft the place I ruthlessly minimize out every little thing that fell flat.

KW: What was your thought course of behind leaving the protagonist/narrator unnamed?

MR: I used to search out unnamed narrators extraordinarily annoying, a pointless sort of withholding. Then, years in the past—I used to be studying a novel by a lady of shade—I learn the transfer as a political act. There is usually a energy in that lack of entry, a degree of management that reminds the reader they solely have entry to what the narrator is prepared to present. They solely have entry to these components, or variations, of her physique; these corners of her thoughts; these shades of her feelings.

So there was that. However actually the choice wasn’t mine; it had been made for me by the historical past of the novel. My novel is a response—certainly, rejoinder—to the gendered and racialized violence that inaugurated Iranian fiction by way of Sadegh Hedayat’s The Blind Owl (1937), the primary novel in Farsi. Hedayat’s unnamed male narrator has an Iranian father and Indian mom whom he exoticizes and fetishizes, the kind of orientalization of India that has a protracted historical past in Iran. As a way to enter that dialog, my protagonist needed to have the identical id—however we get a lady’s perspective. 

All that stated, I appreciated how the dearth of a reputation creates a way of intimacy with the reader. It mimics love poetry—I’m pondering of a specific ghazal by Rumi, for instance, the place the chorus “me and also you” chimes on the finish of every couplet. Right here the “I” of the speaker addresses the “you” of the reader. There’s even a second or two within the e-book with “yous” that break the fourth wall, or act to generalize, reasonably than “one,” and pull the reader in. The reader turns into a sort of beloved.

KW: How did the cityscapes of Los Angeles and Tehran assist sculpt the story? And why was it necessary to you to set the novel in each locations?

MR: The e-book is a couplet: two halves that every make sense on their very own however grow to be altogether one thing else when paired collectively. It’s additionally a love letter to LA. That metropolis was dwelling to me for nearly a decade, the longest I’ve lived someplace on goal (by which I imply, outdoors of the accident of the place I grew up). 

Tehran is equally a metropolis I fashioned a relationship with as an grownup. My mom’s from there, and we began touring again as a household after I was 4, going not each summer season however each two or three, at any time when my educational mother and father might afford it. However after I was eighteen I selected to go alone for the primary time, the summer season earlier than school. For years, I went a couple of times a yr, generally for work in a way—I did my grasp’s analysis there for my diploma in Islamic artwork and later, working in up to date artwork in Dubai and New York, would go try galleries, and so forth. Sadly, now I haven’t been because the pandemic. I wrote this e-book in 2022. Perhaps I used to be homesick. (There is part of me that can all the time really feel that it’s dwelling, as difficult as that’s, and although I used to be born within the US. It’s a spot that’s without delay so removed from me and so shut.) 

Politically, I’m concerned with how related the cities are. They’re virtually on the identical latitude, the climates aren’t so very totally different, they each have lots of Iranians. However residing within the US, current in broader American tradition, Iran feels very far-off. Most People haven’t any motive to consider it, and those who do typically can’t entry it given US-American relations because the Revolution. Liquid was a approach to collapse that distance.


Kyla D. Walker: Did you write the novel with a top level view or the ending in thoughts? Or was the voice of Jacob, the narrator, the principle information?

Jeremy Gordon: See Friendship initially started as a brief story of about 9,000 phrases made up of basically three scenes: a narrator reunites with a highschool classmate at a bar in Los Angeles, the place he discovers the true circumstances behind the demise of a mutual good friend; the narrator explains what he’s realized about these true circumstances, and the involvement of one other former classmate, to his ex-girlfriend; the narrator comes face-to-face with the concerned classmate in an interview for an untitled podcast mission. Woven all through these scenes have been the narrator’s ideas about his useless good friend (their relationship, his demise, and so forth), conveyed in a barely world-weary, too-cool-for-school angle about issues that had taken place and will now not be modified. 

The mission expanded and advanced in some ways: Jacob (my renamed narrator) turned extra fallible and fewer confident; the podcast went from being a tossed-in dynamic to a central pursuit; new characters have been added that allowed me to sketch out totally different concepts and feelings. However I knew the novel’s instigating occasion was a revelation, and that the concluding occasion was a confrontation—and that, to take us from A to B, I wished an enthralling, honest, understanding, however not altogether right voice. As I revisit the story immediately, it’s clear how I’d established the core construction of See Friendship—and, actually, if I have been to rapidly summarize the e-book now, the weather of the preliminary brief story would work in a pinch.

KW: See Friendship vibrates between gentle humor and stark tragedy remarkably effectively all through every scene. How did you handle to maintain this emotional steadiness, and was it intentional to layer the prose with each of those components?

JG: I don’t all the time try to “write what I do know,” however I all the time attempt to “write what I like”—and whereas I’d wish to suppose I’ve a comparatively numerous style in literature, there’s a sure sensibility that I all the time get pleasure from. It’s a tone that claims “we’re dying, however let’s have enjoyable”; it faces near-certain tragedy with the mirth required to not be overwhelmed by near-certain tragedy; it has the braveness to inform a darkish joke on what could be the worst day of somebody’s life. A e-book that was on my thoughts in the course of the revision course of was Percival Everett’s Erasure, which pairs scenes of unbelievable unhappiness with some really hysterical traces. This “snigger to maintain from crying” strategy has all the time resonated with me each personally and on the web page, and it served as a useful compass as I used to be revising and modifying. When the e-book felt prefer it was getting a bit too self-serious, I attempted to lighten it up; after I anxious I used to be making a mockery of significant issues, I remembered that Jacob shouldn’t be meant to be a buffoon. A reader who completed the e-book advised me: “My preliminary response was very unhappy, which is perhaps not what I used to be anticipating by the tip as a result of it was additionally very humorous.” That twinned expertise is, really, what I used to be capturing for. 

KW: What was your favourite a part of the writing course of for See Friendship? How lengthy did it take from begin to end?

JG: I started writing the novel in the summertime of 2019. I accomplished a primary draft towards the tip of 2020, then spent a few year-and-a-half revising it into the e-book that finally went on submission. When all is alleged and achieved, practically six years handed between breaking floor and publication, which appears kind of unbelievable whilst I issue within the distorting results of pandemic time. However, and I hope this doesn’t sound obscure, this chunk of time didn’t appear so colossal as a result of I continued to essentially benefit from the writing and revising course of. There have been a number of factors after I puzzled the way it was going, however by no means a second after I doubted my dedication to seeing this particular mission by to the tip—and that self-knowledge, following some failed makes an attempt at writing different novels, was invaluable. Typically, I’d lookup after a protracted stretch of revising and rereading, and say out loud to my spouse: “You understand, I feel that is nonetheless fairly good.” Or she’d ask me what I used to be laughing at, and the reply was: “My very own joke.” To have that response a number of years into the method was actually particular, and informative—it confirmed to me that one thing within the writing was working, even when it felt like every little thing else was taking eternally. That’s one thing for me to chase sooner or later. 

KW: How has your background of being a tradition critic affected your strategy to writing fiction and this novel particularly? Did the transition to writing fiction really feel pure?

JG: My earliest makes an attempt at writing fiction, as an grownup, appear ridiculous to me after I revisit them now: I used to be satisfied that they needed to “sound in a different way” than my common writing as a tradition critic, and so I labored to discover a tone and voice that ended up being fully affected. It’s not that these passages didn’t sound like me, as a result of I’ve no important self that I must sound like; it’s that they weren’t coming from a pure supply. However after I began writing See Friendship, I noticed that I had discovered a approach to minimize the shit. I used to be nonetheless laboring, however I wasn’t pretending to be one other author.  And I feel all of the work I’d achieved as a tradition critic had helped hone my sensitivity to what was and wasn’t working—as a result of I knew what I appreciated, I might pursue that sensibility as my North Star in moments of doubt or disaster.

I’m engaged on a brand new novel that’s, in lots of regards, very totally different from See Friendship; a few early readers have stated as a lot. But it doesn’t really feel like a “reinvention” or no matter; it’s coming from the identical supply of curiosity and inspiration that powered my first e-book. I feel that hyper-awareness of what’s turning me on and what isn’t—for lack of a greater phrase—is one thing that was formed by my hours and hours of publicity to so many several types of media, whether or not in literature or music or motion pictures or no matter else. Books are books, not motion pictures or songs, however emotions and moods are cross-medium.


Kyla D. Walker: What was the genesis/inspiration for writing Deep Cuts?

Holly Brickley: The preliminary concept was to discover my lifelong envy of musicians within the context of a love story, the place I believed it might make a superb complicating issue. I knew I wished to do it with a feminist lens, as a result of that’s how I noticed my envy, as a longing to be in one of the best of all of the boys golf equipment; to have had, as a younger lady, the carefree confidence {that a} younger boy is so more likely to have when he first picks up a guitar. Additionally, I’ve all the time wished to write down a rock novel, and I had this concept that by really writing about songs—by weaving components of music journalism into the material of a novel—I might need one thing new to supply the custom.  

KW: Did you write the novel with a top level view or the ending in thoughts? 

HB: No, I’m a pantser. Outlining by no means works for me as a result of I get to know my characters as I write, and plot is pushed by character. So I simply felt my method ahead, understanding the subsequent one to 2 chapters and never a lot past that. I had a way of the place it might finally find yourself, however it was obscure, and I had no concept how I’d get there.

KW: How did you resolve on the construction of a playlist for Deep Cuts? And did you resolve on which songs you’d use earlier than writing the chapters?

HB: The concept to make use of songs as chapter titles got here proper at first; that was a part of my preliminary conception of a novel that really analyzes songs. It was a bit totally different at first, although. Some chapters learn extra like a standard novel, whereas others have been shorter impressionistic items targeted solely on a music (no plot). Across the midway mark, I jettisoned these shorter chapters, which I might see by then have been pointless and doubtless pretentious. 

As for whether or not I knew the songs earlier than beginning the chapter, that diversified. Typically I knew with certainty from the start; generally I believed I knew, however modified my thoughts. And different instances it took some effort to discover a music able to doing the emotional heavy lifting I wanted. For instance, there’s one chapter that was absolutely written, minus the music, for a number of days whereas I flipped by my information and yelled “Alexa, subsequent! Alexa, subsequent!” Lastly, I discovered “The Weak spot in Me” by Joan Armatrading, and never solely did the music facilitate the emotional pivot I wanted, however it took that pivot to a deeper place. 

KW: What was your favourite a part of the writing course of for Deep Cuts? How lengthy did it take from begin to end?

HB: I do know this sounds loopy, however it was just a bit over a yr, from January 2022 to March 2023. I truthfully liked each rattling minute of penning this e-book, which is why I used to be in a position to write it so rapidly—I used to be obsessed, writing each spare second I might discover, barely sleeping for nights on finish. 

If I needed to choose a favourite second, it was most likely writing the penultimate chapter, “Heartbeats.” That was a enjoyable scene for lots of causes, however a part of it was that I might lastly see easy methods to land the aircraft I’d been flying, frankly, blind. That was an exhilarating second.